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Does phoenix require javascript, or just this announcement page? I see a big block of text mixed with json... Not so good for noscript users and search engines that don't load JS.

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We use readme.io to host our guides and blog. They use angular I believe, so maybe a hiccup on their end? Phoenix itself targets html/form, spa's, and api's alike.

Interesting. Any reason why it's not built with Phoenix? It seems like docs would be a perfect use case for such a framework.

Building a custom docs app falls somewhere below "Getting 1.0 released" on the kanban board, if I had to guess.

Just the announcement page.

The Phoenix website is hosted on https://readme.io/, it seems that it uses client side rendering for posts.

Our (ReadMe.io) fault! We're releasing a JS-free version in the very near future :)

No, you can use phoenix without any javascript, it'll serve up regular html pages just fine. You only need the js if you plan on using sockets to connect to Phoenix's endpoints.

OP is asking about the phoenix web page, not phoenix itself.

Actually he was asking about both

Phoenix is built to power realtime web applications. Realtime web applications require javascript.

Edit: Not that you can't use Phoenix without realtime capabilities, but a lot of the good stuff in Phoenix is around Channels.

JavaScript may well be practically required, but there are people/agents that don't have it, and dumping piles of json data on them is a poor fallback.

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