With no DEA in sight, Bolivia keeps reducing coca fields

I remember when massive dragnet government surveillance was a conspiracy theory.

The DEA is currently what I would call to be "nanny government". It exists to limit your options and punish you for certain choices, in the name of your safety and in the name of "public order".

My vision for the DEA is more libertarian, shifting its functions to information gathering and dissemination rather than forceful modulation of the citizens.

We don't need a nanny government to keep us safe, we need the quality information to decide for ourselves what "safe" is and what margins of safety we are willing to tolerate. This works for some things but not others, obviously.

Any "solution" that involves everybody exercising perfect self control or personal responsibility is useless, even if it's technically true that it would solve the problem.

People simply don't work that way. You can't wish self control into existence just by saying it would be useful. It's like saying, "We wouldn't need lower shelves if everyone was over 6ft tall."

Addiction is more complicated than "a lack of self control." Addicts generally don't kick the habit and then start to reintegrate into society; it's the other way around. If stability is introduced into their lives, they become less dependent the escape offered by the drug. In fact, when their drug use is not criminalized, the vast majority of addicts are able to lead normal lives. This has been shown multiple times in multiple places, even in America as the drug war was gearing up. Moreover, even the drugs with bad reputations (heroin, cocaine) do not result in addiction for most people who try them. Those who become addicts largely do so because they have issues that they are using the drug to cope with. This is evidenced by the lower rates of addiction and petty crime in places where drugs are legalized rather than the sharp increase one would expect if drugs are as dangerously addictive as we are led to believe.

There's also no need for a nanny state solution for purity testing. There are already mobile chem labs at festivals which will test your substance for you and tell you exactly what's in it, and such services exist elsewhere also. Furthermore, if drugs were legalized, there would be far fewer instances of adulterated sales to begin with. It's done by unscrupulous dealers--already profiting from the inflated prices that a black market brings--who take advantage of the buyer's inability to go to law enforcement to report fraud. It's also done by addicts themselves who need to make money to get their next fix: it's easier to cut some of your stuff with baby powder and sell it than it is to steal money or property. Return to doctors the ability to prescribe narcotics to addicts and this problem virtually disappears.

The biggest cause of most (if not all) of the problems that the drug war is supposed to combat is the drug war itself. It's been that way since the beginning.

Your argument makes no sense - the FDA is itself an example of the government testing and issuing recommendations on drugs! How is that any less "nanny government" than having the DEA do the same for illegal drugs?

Sorry, but the constellation of ill-effects stemming from heavily militarized, increasingly lawless, and demonstrably corrupt police forces goes way beyond the relativly limited number of people who produce, distribute, and consume recreational drugs.

If you're wondering why you've been severely downvoted, it's probably because of extreme irritation with such willful blindness. We are well past the point where intelligent, well-informed people can kid themselves about the conspiciously nasty "side effects" from the War on Drugs.

No reasonable person is saying that recreational drug use isn't problematic. The question is how do we deal with those problems. Whatever else we may decide on, it's become abundently clear that the criminal law-enforcement based approach we're taking now is doing vastly more harm that it is ostensibly reducing. Moreover, it's doing serious damage to a growing number of people who have nothing to do with drugs. Indeed, the rot is seeping into the very foundations of democracy.

You're right, of course. As policies, harm reduction can't coexist with harsh enforcement.

Similar to the difference between drinking a cup of (regular black) tea and consuming a small amount of powdered caffeine?

I don't think one needs to have traveled through the region to consider unethical the attempts to stifle a nation's old tradition that isn't hurting anyone. It's throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

>Cocaine is problem primarily in the advanced capitalist economies and it is solely within these nations where those problems can be solved..

Travel through the poor neighbourhoods Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Argentina, Brazil etc and say cocaine (or by-products of the cocaine process) are not a problem.

>and it is solely within these nations where those problems can be solved

The only solution is legalisation of all drugs. Producter countries such as Bolivia, Peru, Colombia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Laos, Burma will have billions added to the government funds to help lift 1000s if not millions of people out of poverty. Transport countries such as El Salavador, Honduras, Mexico will cut of instantly 99% of profits to the drug gangs. Users will stop dying from tainted products, or using "research chemicals" instead of the real thing.

Negatives? from what has been seen in Holland and the decriminalisation of cannabis and Portagal, none