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Obama Administration Supports Privacy-Invasive “Cybersecurity” Bill

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I suppose when they talked about Transparency what they really meant was they'd be able to see everything you do.

For those also getting 503'd

https://web.archive.org/web/20150821123901/https://www.eff.o...

You, my good fellow, are awesome. :)

Its pretty clear at this point that every Western government wants to be able to spy on its own citizens as thoroughly as possible while dressing it up as 'security'.

It is really quite sad how obviously transparent it is yet most people are indifferent. :/

Well, it /is/ "security" in their sense of the word. It isn't very /good/ security or very /effective/ but it's goal is indeed what it is claiming. They don't desire totalitarianism or anything.

Remember that a controlling government is a byproduct of giving governments control, not the actual goal of any individual or group within government (who merely want control to do a different thing). Nobody wants to be a bad guy, they genuinely think this is helpful. The road to hell and all that.

Which is why it is our responsibility as citizens to limit the government's control.

> Well, it /is/ "security" in their sense of the word. It isn't very /good/ security or very /effective/ but it's goal is indeed what it is claiming. They don't desire totalitarianism or anything.

It is the exact opposite of security precisely because they put all the eggs in one basket with security [frankly] on par with some of the shittiest non-security in the private sector. They don't even meet their own standards.

We might as well just fedex hard drives to anyone who is our enemy.

> They don't desire totalitarianism or anything.

I'm starting to believe this less and less.

I think the Windows 10 privacy issues are going to become common in modern operating systems if they haven't already.

It is going to give governments back door access into what we do online and what things we look at on the Internet and how we communicate with others.

All it takes are some operating system updates to install the NSA backdoor if there isn't already one there anyway.

In order to secure the Internet, this bill has to have the government spy on its citizens to make sure they aren't doing anything wrong.

Many people who use the internet see themselves as global citizens.

The idea of a modern nation state exists due to the weakening of religion and tribalism and creation of nationalism.

The internet is very threatening to nationalistic values - just like scientific thinking was to religion - and a weakening of nationalism is the ultimate threat to all world government.

"War is the health of the State."

http://fair-use.org/randolph-bourne/the-state/

now is the time to start creating decentralized alternatives to what was previously considered core functionality of the state.

Where is the outrage? All I see is passive acceptance or indifference.

Most people don't understand exactly what is happening or even that bills like these might be passed.

Imagine trying to educate the average, non-IT field citizen about the technology used in the NSA/GCHQ programs we learned of during the Snowden leaks.

It's an insurmountable task.

Transparency for thee but not for me...

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