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Comment by gr3yh47 | Hacker News Reader

if something is free, you are not the customer, you are the product

Windows 10 is not free. The cost is built-in to the hardware you buy. They threw their users a bone to get some goodwill and hopefully entice some of them off old OSes, but the OS is not free, and this canard needs to stop.

Linux is free. Do you mean to imply that Linux is nothing more than an advertising/tracking platform? I pay for cable TV, so I guess I'm not the product there right? Oh wait, even though I pay the real money comes from being able to direct my eyeballs at ads. The world is not that simple, and I keep seeing people parrot this exact line at everything. It is applicable in some cases and not in others, so don't whip it to death.

That's comparing enterprised apples to open-sourced oranges.

Yes, but the comment above his simplifies both into "fruit" so it's valid to call it out on that.

119.99 for the Home version and 199.99 for the Pro version.

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Windows-...

Yep, my restore disk set had a bad disk (and I paid for them too which sucks) so since it was the Home version and I thought I might need stuff that Windows 10 Pro has I went for pro, cost me $200 bucks. I got my license on Amazon. I thought about getting an MSDN subscription but not sure how the licensing works these days for the OS's it includes (it used to be fairly complicated years ago).

Edit: I used smile.amazon.com so money is contributed to my charity, the American Heart Association.

Windows 10 is not free, it's a free upgrade for customers that already payed for a previous version.

...which is unlike all the previous versions of Windows.

paid

???

Windows is not gratis and has tracking.

GNU is gratis and has no tracking.

MTV isn't free. Paying customers are still their product.

FOSS?

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