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Just stop going to the u.s. Frankly, the place is a dump and its people are ignorant and crude. I never thought I'd have an unironic conversation with someone arguing against the existence of evolution until my last trip to the u.s. They are superstitious and even the most liberal of them has politics to the right of your government's fascist wing, and a bizarre attitude toward sex where their behavior is nothing like their rhetoric.

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That's a pretty broad brush to paint a country of 350+ million citizens.

Just do a search on 'u.s. Education decline'.

Sure, there are always individuals that buck the trend but overall the u.s. Is an embarrassment and getting worse.

Anecdotally, I am in the Midwest twice per year and have to listen to people complaining about the Jews and the niggers, and about various conspiracies about global warming, and how there's no way we're descended from monkeys.

I don't hear any of at shit where I live in Europe, except for some of the racist stuff but in a more nuanced manner.

F'en BS. You visit the "Midwest" twice a year and there's just people throwing out ethnic slurs all over the place? And the most "liberal" people you're talking to are far right fascists? Sorry, simply BS.

Stop making stuff up. You're not impressing anyone with your nonsense. I await your even more strongly worded rebuttal to being called out. I'm sure it will be super convincing.

This is rural MN and NW WI, but even then do you find it hard to believe? 45% of Americans believe in creationism and the u.s. has some of the worse race relations on the planet. What sort of bubble do you live in?

I've spent significant portions of my life in rural MN as that's where I was born. I'm in rural MN and WI for 2-4 weeks a year now. My father is buried in a speck on the map that has no stoplights or stop signs. So no bubble at all.

I understand anti-Americanism plays really well at a lot of places online though. So keep the shtick going, I'm sure you'll impress someone.

What's anti-American? Do you mean the racism? Or being against racism is anti-American?

So nuance makes it better.

Also, I have to call bullshit. Unless you are hanging out at a Klan rally, or maybe your relatives live in a trailer park, the likelihood of hearing any of that is slim to non-existant.

You live in a bubble. I can confidently say that you are ignorant.

http://www.rt.com/usa/majority-americans-racist-poll-378/ http://www.gallup.com/poll/170822/believe-creationist-view-h...

"I don't hear any of at shit where I live in Europe"

Didn't Europeans murder millions of people within living memory, and isn't there active "ethnic cleansing" going on in the Balkans even as we speak?

Yeah. "Nuanced".

Even if you were correct about the midwest, it's not where most Americans live. It'd be like generalising about Europe from visiting Belarus.

Sounds like the bible belt[1]. Come visit the rest of the US, it's a vastly different experience. Not that we don't have our share of issues, but explicit hate speech is vastly reduced, people believe in climate change and evolution.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Belt

Creationism is prevalent across the US.

http://ncse.com/creationism/general/my-backyard-creationism-...

This would be Switzerland that passed a law against building minarets, didn't give all women the vote until 1989 and hates Balkan immigrants with a passion?

"...the place is a dump and its people are ignorant and crude."

Really quite shocking how you didn't make more friends here, with such a sunny disposition and open-mindedness.

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